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Host 1: So what do you think about glycolic acid for an anti-aging type treatment?
Host 2: I love it. I think it is a great maintenance. I think it is essential, especially as you get into… Even starting at 25 when that collagen perception starts to slow down, keeping the skin smooth, keeping the surface clean and regenerating itself.
I love the combinations. I love the glycolic acid, lactic acid, salicylic. I like them when they are kind of blended together and you get the benefits of all three wonderful little acids.
Host 1: Glycolic acid can come in different percentages and you can find a lot of glycolic acid products in drugstores or…
Host 2: They are everywhere now.
Host 1: But usually what you are getting is a lower percentage of the glycolic Acid, because they don’t want you taking a very strong glycolic Acid and…
Host 2: Peeling your face!
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Host 1: That is why when you go to an estheticians or a dermatologist, they know how long to leave it on for.
Host 3: Hopefully.
Host 1: Well hopefully, and the percentage to use for your particular skin type or your particular problem. But you can find some glycolic acid treatments that work really well. You might take a little bit longer to see results because you are not dealing with the higher percentage of concentration of the glycolic acid.
Host 3: But you want to see results over an extended amount of time, and that is the whole, I think, impetus. It’s prevention. It’s reversing. It’s not going to happen overnight and we all want it to happen overnight. “I don’t like this spot. Get it off.”
Host 1: Well yeah, and a lot of people use products and they go, “Well I am using it, but it didn’t work!” But you have to be consistent. You have to be patient.
Host 2: You can’t sleep with your makeup on and expect the Retin-A to work! [laughs]
And I think, going back to glycolics and alpha-hydroxys, when the first introduced it, it was high percentages and peel, peel, peel. I think it’s important for consumers to realize that it is something that is better left on the skin. So using it in a wash is not going to be the most effective way to…
Host 3: They just rinse it right off.
Host 2: It just comes right off so quickly. Salicylic acid in a wash, I do like for acne care.
Host 3: But again, not for expecting mothers.
Host 2: Right. And with the glycolics and alpha-hydroxys, to have them left on the skin in a serum form I think is a nice benefit.
Host 3: Toners, as well, are really nice way to mildly exfoliate the skin and establish that PH balance and prep it for what is next.
You know, I really like what you were saying about vitamin A’s at night. I really like to do kind of, if you are going to peel your skin, if you are going to do this exfoliation, do it at night! And then during the day…
Host 2: Protect.
Host 3: Protect.
Host 2: And soothe. Absolutely.
Host 3: Because our skin is regenerating itself at night. That is when most beneficial… You are going to see the best benefits from a product.
Host 2: Right. Absolutely.
Host 1: Well, and then the glycolic acid works more on the upper layers of the skin. And when you use a retinol type product that is working it deeper into the skin.
Host 2: And it is such a beautiful combination to use the two together.
Host 3: Absolutely. Swab off the exterior, work from the interior out.
Host 1: So what the Retinol is actually doing underneath the skin is regenerating healthy skin cell growth, right? So that will help plump your skin and give it back some of its vitality and elasticity.
Host 3: Lactic acid, I found, is really fun for people who want a quick peel and want to walk out looking gorgeous.
Host 2: It is very gentle. Great for Rosacea.
Host 3: Absolutely. It’s milk!
Host 2: Rosacea clients. For people that are more sensitive, lactic is phenomenal.
Host 3: Apparently Cleopatra use to bathe in milk and she had gorgeous skin.
Host 1: So what would you recommend? A treatment like once a week with lactic acid if you just want your skin to glow and have that…
Host 2: I don’t… Maybe once a week I would say enzymes. Something at home, enzymes. If you are going to see your esthetician in her practice, in his practice, lactic acid. I don’t know about once a week, though. I think that presets into that thought, like, “Peel it, peel it, peel it,” instead of four to six weeks, getting into the cycle of skin.
Host 1: Right. Absolutely. You can overdo it.
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Host 2: What will happen next? Yeah, excellent. I think another thing that is newer on the market, well the last few years, are peptides. I don’t know your experience with peptides.
But peptides, for consumers, are little protein molecules that basically speak the same language as the cells. So if your skin cells need to produce more collagen or elastin, there are specific peptide molecules that tell your skin cells to do that.
And so it supports the inhibition or not breaking down of elastin and collagen and helps to stimulate new collagen and elastin growth.
Host 3: Which is the matrix that gives our skin the strength that it needs.
Host 2: … support. So if you think of it as… I think matrix is the best way and most people can understand what a matrix system is. But as we get older, the skin cells break down. Collagen breaks down. And when collagen breaks down you get a wrinkle. When elastin breaks down you get the sagging of the skin.
So both of those ingredients, or both of those structures, are needed to be in place to have nice smooth, young looking skin.
I think peptides coming on the marketplace is one of the most exciting things, because we can actually go in and help repair and prevent that breakdown. I have had clients that have had beautiful results with the peptides.
Host 1: And even with the skin sagging…
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Host 1: Yeah, because it is different. The wrinkling is kind of different than what happens when your skin starts sagging.
Host 2: Right. You can have perfectly smooth skin, but it is sagging.
Host 1: Yeah. You have lost elasticity here, I mean let’s all stand up! But, you know. It happens.
Host 2: It does.
Host 1: People think that wrinkles are the first things that really happen to your skin, that you will see the aging occur, but it is actually the sagging of it.
Host 3: You have lost elasticity.
Host 1: And that is what we were talking about earlier, was that DEMA, which is… Have you used that in your salon?
Host 2: I have used it here and there, yes, a little bit. I still go back to those peptides because I am not as familiar, and the stability I still kind of question a little bit.
Host 1: It is new. They are still doing research on it and they are still trying to figure out really why…
Host 2: Why it works; how it works Yeah.
Host 1: So it hasn’t been studied really in depth, but you can find it in products and people have had good results. And we found out it is derived from fish, right?
Host 3: It is a naturally occurring protein in salmon and sardines.
Host 2: Well, and it is excellent to take internally.
Host 3: That is exactly right. And all this excitement about fish oils… We are what we eat, so putting it in internally.
Host 2: Absolutely.
Host 3: And then Paragon has put it on the market in his product, in his serum. And we also learned that if you are working with DEMA, it needs to be stabilized with vitamin C in order for those two to interact.
Host 2: OK. Makes sense. And I think I really see a difference in people’s skin when they are taking it internally. Virgin coconut oil is another great addition to the diet. Just put it in a shake, protein shake, or what have you.
Host 3: Put it on your toast.
Host 2: Oh, it is great! You can cook with it! And really whole body hydration. I notice than when people are feeling dry and they make that addition…
Host 3: And you smell delicious!
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Host 2: You do! Who doesn’t love coconut?
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